Aui joined our team mid-January after Zai and Arteezy left after a disappointing Summit 2 and Dotapit result. We knew c9 was replacing 2 players for n0tail and misery but we were almost certain it was bone7 being kicked not aui. Originally we planned on trying out both Sumail and Yawar and finding a way to make that work because of how limited our options were. During the "mid-season" shuffle I lobbied around trying to find replacements and NOBODY was willing to give us a chance. They all viewed us as weak, the 'losers' in the shuffle and wanted nothing to do with us. When I was talking to EE he revealed that they were releasing aui not bone . It was destiny he just kinda fell into our lap. Aui and Zai had next to identical play styles and hero pools so it was the obvious choice. Still feel bad about Yawar but he'll be fine, sometimes you wish you could have more than 5 players on a team but such is life.
Then we won DAC, then we got 2nd at a lot of tournies, lost a MLG, and then we won TI.
This wasn't super surprising as the best thing about our team is confidence. We practiced hard, studied hard, and prepared ourselves mentally for the challenge of a lifetime. When secret lost to both ehome and vp we knew this was our TI for the taking we just had to do it.
Were we the best team? That I can't be sure of but the amount of satisfaction you feel from winning a tournament like DAC or TI is truly a unique and overwhelming experience. For all of this I thank my teammates including aui who worked incredibly hard to achieve a goal and dream of all of ours.
So let's talk about Aui's removal. Starting with some simple pro's and con's.
Pros:
1. Hard worker
2. Dedicated
3. Talented
4. Trustworthy
5. Malleable
6. he's just the nicest guy ever
Cons:
1. Not an effective communicator
2. Often makes mistakes under high pressure
3. Creates a stressful environment
I'll give a bit more info on the cons because let's be honest these are the only things people are going to talk about.
Aui is one of those guys who talks a lot but says very little, if you know anyone like this you'll understand what I'm saying. His ability to communicate effectively just isn't there and even though we worked on it all year long it didn't get much better. A lot of this falls on me for my ability to captain and direct effective coms but it's a lot of work and I wasn't always up for the task.
If you watch our games you'll see most of them turn into a 4 protect 1, but not to farm our carry. Instead we did this to find farm for Aui and have 4 farmed heroes and 1 underfarmed hero(mine) in the mid to late game. Whether this is how dota is played I'm not sure but we were pretty limited in style.
I'm not going to call out specific plays where maybe Aui's nerves got the best of him and I won't pretend it doesn't happen to all of us but it is something that we all have to work on especially aui because his comfort in game directly correlates to his level of play.
To touch on the stressful environment I don't think I have ever been more stressed out in my life than I had been the past 3 months. Hell I'm still stressed out trying to deal with all of this ridiculous backlash. The way aui handles his communication and his play made every game feel like the hardest game we had ever played. That could be on the rest of us but I have a feeling it isn't. Either way something had to change because no amount of winning was worth the stress I was going through. I would spend hours in my head preparing strategy and going through drafts with Sam only to have aui question our strategy as we sat down at the goddamn stage.
Let's also talk about the WB finals before we move on where Aui turned into the most cancerous player aside from CWM I had ever seen with an 18 MILLION DOLLAR TOURNAMENT LEFT TO PLAY. Honestly show some composure and don't whine on your teammates. We lost, learn from it and move on we've both played enough tournies to know how these things work. We literally went though the same exact thing at DAC. (A cancerous WB Rout from Vici into a following sweep through the lb and the finals) you learn more about yourself from losing and if you can't keep your composure at TI you're useless to me. Our strategy going into the final day was ppd talk more and aui talk less.
The international is by far the most stressful and most difficult tournament to win. It truly defines the kind of a player you are and it took me a TI to realize I no longer wanted to team with Aui.
So part two:
Why Artour and why not kick fear instead?
Artour is a clown but an amazing dota player first and foremost. He generates independent thought, works hard, and is undeniably one of the most dedicated players to the game. Also the way he handles himself just works with our team. Ti4 eg I had the most fun I've ever had with a team and we honestly missed it. This year EG felt so corporate, even though we were friends we weren't REALLY friends. You went to practice or played your matches then you just went your own way.
Side note: I'm pretty sure every team needs a clown to lighten the mood as dota is an insanely stressful experience. This year we hired in Bulba as our coach/jester. Thanks Sam for giving into to peer pressure drinking too much and still be the first one up in the morning watching replays.
Let's talk about old man Fear. This guys honestly THE MOST VALUABLE dota player out there. He can play any hero, any role, and with a little practice he can fit them into any play style. Also let's note that he basically co-captains the team and directs movement, maintains a positive attitude, and makes sure that I do my job as the captain. I know I have what it takes to lead my team to success but occasionally I need a kick in the ass to actually do it and fear is there to have our backs. He tells me to make decisions and enforce them. Without him I'd be half the captain I am today and THAT is why he is irreplaceable.
So that's it lets silence a few rumors and move on with our lives.
1. There's no such thing as a surprise kick, I told aui FIRST on skype via text I asked him if he would be more comfortable talking on call and he declined.
2. Sing sing did absolutely not know anything about aui being booted, he may have made an assumption or guessed but cmon no one talks about roster changes till after you get eliminated from TI for good reason.
3. You actually can't compare this to the niqua thing because he was booted right before to qualifiers and had no opportunity to do something else.
I know I'm an arrogant prick and I accept that but let's not pretend that I don't have my teams best interest at the top of my priorities. Thanks for reading.
-ppd
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ReplyDeletecool... still got burned by fng tho
ReplyDeleteCool.... FNG didn't win a TI tho
Deletepfffft winning Ti is easy, just get the best support in the scene like ppd did and kick him after Ti
DeleteOh my god, did you just say winning TI is easy? HOLY SHIT. You couldn't think of a good comeback to my statement that's why you said this? How can a person ever say "Get the best support and win TI" Holy shit. Just no. I can tell you are a really big fan of Aui, because you're the first person I know to actually say "WINNING TI IS EASY" holy fuck that's just like saying I can be 7k mmr from 1k mmr in just 2 days. smh
DeleteThing is that PPD made it seem like he thinks it's nothing by just kicking one of the winning players straight after the tournament.
DeleteSeems reasonable. Can't have a motherfucker questioning authority when you're in the trenches. It's useless, demoralizing static. Everyone's got doubts, air them out after you've actually lost.
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DeleteYeah sure, get the problems out after the shit has happened. That's what they call hindsight.
DeleteAui being a stressful and cancerous person was a part on why he was kicked by C9.
ReplyDeleteAnd why was EE still on C9 then?
DeleteWhat are you talking about? EE is not in C9 anymore, no1 is actually.
DeleteMy theory is that playing on C9 and constantly dealing with EE and getting second place stressed Aui out. After losing in the WB finals at TI5, it was starting to feel like C9 all over again and I can see him feeling desperate and starting to mentally prepare himself for 2nd place again.
DeleteIt's amazing what being in such a shit atmosphere for so long can do to a man. And yes, C9 was shit. But now that he has that win under his belt, hopefully he can start to change his mindset and find success with his future teams.
you really had to pull out all that shit? you and arteezy just two selfish pricks trying to get this easy on you. and then kuroky and aui wont find a team because of your "truth"
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DeleteJust wanted to point this out. Aui did find a team. He said so on twitter.
Deletehttps://mobile.twitter.com/Aui_2000?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
I mean.. They are dota professionals trying to make the best team possible. Does it make them selfish that they don't want to carry a cancerous player for no reason?
Deletenahh ppd is just a fag who likes to suck arteezy's gigantic egoistic cock that much
DeleteThere it is Axel Malabanan. Thank you for confirming your intelligence.
DeleteBut, can artour and sumail working together ? their role seem to be conflicted.
ReplyDeletewell, he did work with s4, so I don't feel like THIS is the problem
Deletesumail don't need to adjust cause its fear giving the carry role to rtz
DeleteStill felt bad for aui. You have a fair thought, but still you kick aui and i'm sure that it lessens his moral. I know it's hard for you to
ReplyDeleteFUCK AUI, LONG LIVE PPD
ReplyDeleteIf you share your full thoughts from the beginning, it makes it much easier to sympathize with you and your team. The way you explained it, the decision makes a lot of sense. And nothing arrogant or prickish about it, just be honest with us (the fans).
ReplyDeleteUnlike EternalFuckwad, PPD sincerely tries to his best to refrain from publicly criticizing his previous teammates. However, being the autistic 3k scrublords that you are, forced his hand and made him crucify your misguided notions, and aui_2k in the process.
DeleteBlame yourselves. EG 2peat @ ti6
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you could have done that behind the 'kick'. haters and dramaqueens give a poor image of dota with reddit by example.
ReplyDeletepeople do understand better if you explain to them. most of the time.
i do agree on the fact that a top level dota team needs some creative madness around. HF with Artour and win more tournaments.
Holy shit these comments are more carcinogenic than twitch chat :D
ReplyDeleteTy ppd for the honest explanation.
that moment when u realize artour can only play 4 heroes and he is going to bring more drama than you can handle.
ReplyDeletefollowed by the moment the chinese start ass raping you in 2016
inb4 artour gets u kicked ppd, ur mechanically fucking garbage and u know it.
4 heroes? so SF, Storm, Luna, AM, TA, Gyro, BS, Naga, Clinkz and Ember are 4 heroes now? The fuck? AND ALSO WHEN DID A TI CHAMPION BECOME A MOTHERFUCKING GARBAGE? And don't tell me he got carried by his teammates cause he wasn't. Fuck outta here with your dumbshit.
Deleteoh look! a salty arteezy cocksucker....hey eg fangay your team will crumble just wait for it ez
DeleteHey look! a Fucking AUI DICKRIDER. STFU. I just also saw your comment that "WINNING TI IS EASY" Yo Auitistic_2000 fan, how about you get to win atleast a qualifier of TI? YOU DUMBASS CANCER TOXIC SHIT NINJA TURTLE LOOKIN LIKE MOTHERFUCKER. HOW CAN A PERSON EVEN SAY THAT WINNING A TI IS EASY? FUCKING DUMBASS PEOPLE DOING DUMBASS SHIT, Yeah bruh stay true to your Gay ass idol Auitstic_2000, AND SEE HOW YOUR DREAMS ABOUT HIM CRUSHING EG TURN TO DUST. Good luck to your Autistic Team, I wish they atleast get into the qualifiers for TI6 while EG is invited directly. HAHAHAHA SEE YOU AT FUCK YOU ./.
Delete"AND ALSO WHEN DID A TI CHAMPION BECOME A MOTHERFUCKING GARBAGE?" NA'VI? ALLIANCE? HELLO???
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Deletethat moment when u realize artour can only play 4 heroes and he is going to bring more drama than you can handle.
ReplyDeletefollowed by the moment the chinese start ass raping you in 2016
inb4 artour gets u kicked ppd, ur mechanically fucking garbage and u know it.
This clarifies so much.
ReplyDeleteThank you for taking the time to write this, I changed my mind after the read, and despite the rage I got before, now I wish you guys the very best.
I agree. Thanks for the clarification, Peter. I let the rage get a bit out of hand too, but now that I hear PPD's side of things, he has made it clear that this is the best decision not only for EG, but for Aui_2000 as well. Aui needs to find a team that he can have more fun with and communicate better with, and just overall have less stress.
DeleteI agree. Thanks for the clarification, Peter. I let the rage get a bit out of hand too, but now that I hear PPD's side of things, he has made it clear that this is the best decision not only for EG, but for Aui_2000 as well. Aui needs to find a team that he can have more fun with and communicate better with, and just overall have less stress.
Deletelmao Aui got pdded
ReplyDeleteI must say dude, an E.G true and true. mush respect
ReplyDeletepar. 12 : "Honestly show some composure and don't whine on your teammates." lol, like rtz dont.
ReplyDeleteEG=Fear. any changes of player on the team doesn't matter. EG fan since exMYM-OK|EG, EG.Wut, EGThroe, SADBOYSEG, and now TIChampionEG. Well you're one hell of a CAPTAIN/DRAFTER and you save and bring glory to EG.Dota, for that your the BEST CAPTAIN EVER!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteand FEAR is a beast on RUBICK, watch TI3 Qualifiers. Fear > fy
DeleteHell, even if you kicked him for a less reasonable reason it isn't really any of our business. But then again, where would we turn our pitchforks? Anyways, cheers man. Congrats on your big year, though so much for that vacation you kept talking about :p.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, Peter, I understand your reasons to "boot" him out of YOUR team, it's only fair if it's a decision all of you made. However, they way you expose his flaws and the way you talk about them is way too sincere (I could've gone with "salty" too lol). I do understand you want the best for you, I hope you try to improve yourself as a person as well, because I can see you pointing the finger to him, but I can't really see you telling us, your fans (and yes, I'm implying that's not only your team, you salty prick :3, it's ours as well, as your supporters), that you're willing to change to get a nicer environment not only inside your team, but with your fans.
ReplyDeleteActually, if you read Peter's words carefully, you'll see that he accepts a lot of the blame too in this response, which is what makes it so powerful. Yes, he has some harsh words about Aui, but he also says things like, " A lot of this falls on me for my ability to captain and direct effective coms but it's a lot of work and I wasn't always up for the task. " And he admits that Fear is basically a co-captain of the team and helps him be the best captain possible for EG. He admits he isn't perfect and everybody makes mistakes under pressure. Etc, etc, etc. I think Peter has honestly done something very good for the community here. Even though he doesn't owe us an explanation, he gave a very good and reasonable one. And trust me when I say that even as recently as yesterday I was holding the torch and pitchfork and swearing off EG forever.
DeleteActually, if you read Peter's words carefully, you'll see that he accepts a lot of the blame too in this response, which is what makes it so powerful. Yes, he has some harsh words about Aui, but he also says things like, " A lot of this falls on me for my ability to captain and direct effective coms but it's a lot of work and I wasn't always up for the task. " And he admits that Fear is basically a co-captain of the team and helps him be the best captain possible for EG. He admits he isn't perfect and everybody makes mistakes under pressure. Etc, etc, etc. I think Peter has honestly done something very good for the community here. Even though he doesn't owe us an explanation, he gave a very good and reasonable one. And trust me when I say that even as recently as yesterday I was holding the torch and pitchfork and swearing off EG forever.
DeleteHe might take some of the blame, but I still think some of those arguments don't even make sense. " A lot of this falls on me for my ability to captain and direct effective coms but it's a lot of work and I wasn't always up for the task, " everybody makes mistakes under pressure." It really feels to me like looking for reasons to kick him and replace him with RTZ, because let's be honest, are these legit reasons to kick someone after winning The single most important tournament of the year, putting you as best team?
DeleteBASED PPD
ReplyDeleteWHAT NOW AUI FANGAYS?
Kids today fail to understand the importance of physical confrontation, especially when terminating contracts or recent hires. Giving Aui the "option" to be fired over Skype is laughable. Spending a bit of money to fly over and terminate him personally is much more professional conduct, and better PR given the win at TI.
ReplyDeleteWhen you have someone continually challenging the leadership, that means something is wrong on the leadership's ability to resolve conflict. The problem here is mixing friendship with business. With friends, there's an expectation that you will let them get away with certain things. With business partners, you expect them to perform at or above expectations. Aui looked at things from a logical business perspective, contributed to a better team, and lost his job for it.
The "American" way of business, nepotism in its purest form, helps businesses thrive in today's short-term world of appeasing shareholders and quarterly gains. But whether or not you're a corporation, eventually that strategy fails in the long-term, and the business ends up having to throw EVERYONE under a bus so they can hire a new group of incestuous hires who will repeat the process ad nauseam.
That stress you felt during TI propelled you to greatness. The problem wasn't Aui, the problem was the management of stress and using it as an excuse versus using it as a reason to propel yourself further. When rtz falls in line, and makes you guys laugh, I hope the fun you're having makes it worth losing the next TI.
That's not a fair comparison. You don't change the business model to suit an employee. If we are to take E-Sports seriously, then we have to allow them the room to make hard decisions. Things happen, but I don't think anyone could make the argument that this move was out of malice. Lambasting PPD as a bad captain who should deal with stress better is also way off base. Good leaders make it work in the short term and then effect change to make the long term better.
DeleteYou also mention nepotism, I don't think picking up Arteezy can ever be looked to as such. He's one of the best players in the world. His qualities surely remove any doubt that he was picked up just because he's their friend.
It looks to me as though you're another pitchfork driving your own narrative.
The guy above seem more educated and his his point of view has more weight where as you Brotherfriend seems to be a tryhard smartass who just want to disagree to a valid point. just saying
DeleteWe will just have to disagree. Hope we can still be friends though.
DeleteThe guy above seem more educated and his his point of view has more weight where as you Brotherfriend seems to be a tryhard smartass who just want to disagree to a valid point. just saying
Delete'who just wants to disagree to a valid point' maybe, like me, he doesn't see it as a valid point. He still contributed far more than you did. Just saying
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DeleteI like how Naht Shure tries talking about business in a matter of fact way and then exposes himself as a shithead by the end. "Please listen to my words of zen or you're going to lose the next TI."
DeleteHow about you fuck off NS? If you would like to pay for a plane ticket I'll say it to your face instead of the internet. It's the professional way to do it.
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DeleteI agree.
DeleteNo matter how convincing PPD sounds, the fact that RTZ is joining the team is as if telling the whole world: "EG needs rtz more than Aui".
I am under the impression that even if Aui_2000 takes a playstyle more inclined to semi-carry role than to semi-support, he does have the necessary ability to understand the game.
EG is releasing Aui_2k out of greed more than out of thoughtful construction for the team.
Aui brought EG to another level of height. However EG wants Arteezy -- because they think that rtz is a better player, with more fame and limelight.
Well, I think ppd disappoints me. All he said meant, to me, that "we do not want Aui because we can swap him with a more skillful RTZ". EG does not understand that Aui has what it takes to push the team far. PPD fails to see that Aui is, to put it in a way, a backstage player who plays using his brain more than his brawls.
Then again, ppd would be pleasured to remove a player that often rebukes his himself. Why not just take a friendly rtz than a repulsive Aui?
As Zai said, the big issue with all this drama was the lack of an official announcement, letting just people by their own trying to figure out why things happen without a clear insight in the issue.
ReplyDeleteThis was not suppose to be a drama if the community didnt amplify the shuffle in the first place. Js i hope we got more ppl like nahaz as our audience in this scene
DeleteYou think this shuffle is amplified? I think it's a pretty standard reaction when a change of this impact has been made
DeleteTell you what, im not trying to argue here but it's pretty clear Charlie and Aui tweeted about this matter after Cloud9 disband. So we (as the audience and the community) have a chance to know what kind of NAdota/teams were expecting at the next majors. We're not suppose to whine about ppd being inhuman at his own teammate. But yeah it's pretty much a standard reaction from the community until someone butchered into a meme and pasta.
DeletePPD is a well known HoN backstabber and this is all bullshit.. everyone that knows PPD knows he only thinks about himself and the ONLY reason for aui's boot was that he likes artour's balls... the rest is a bunch of excuses.
ReplyDeleteAgreed
DeleteSo hyped that Artour is back! Its gonna be such a fun year as an EG fan! PPD can you also do another stream similar to the Gauntlet one, that shit was comedy gold!
ReplyDeleteIn the end, i guess that kicking Aui from the team is just not enough for you, so now u public all the "sensative information" about Aui in the Internet, for what PPD ? for what ? I personally have no problem with kicking Aui, but public all this information in the internet ? Wow, nice .
ReplyDeleteYah, the pleasure of this drama must be a lot. So u decide to release this pleasure by publicy all of this which serves nothing but to save the image of you. And now, you will become a hero who save all the team and everybody will suddenly hate Aui_ . Good luck. Sr for my english.
DeleteLOL HE IS HELPING THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT IS THE REASON AUI GET KICKED . HATE HIM OR NOT HE DON'T GIVE A FUCK DUDE. I FELT BAD FOR AUI BUT ITS LIFE YOU DON'T NEED TO HATE SOMEONE FOR STATING HIS OPINION. "Okay so this has gone past the point of meaningless drama and in my opinion seems to be defaming me and my teammates character/brand. So I'm going to set things straight with my incredibly biased opinion."
DeleteSrry for caps
Delete"..but what goes on in our team is our business and our's alone. We are doing what we think is best for us."
ReplyDeleteHow does this not apply to the Niqua/Alliance situation? You were there, nagging on them instantly when they made the decision. You do a similar thing yourself and it's totally fine and everyone and their mother is a stupid idiot who should leave you alone. Cmon man..
Why do you think Aui freaked out on social media if you told him directly? I trust you made the right decision in kicking him for RTZ, I just don't understand all the drama that spawned from it.
ReplyDeleteHonestly ppd the people making a stink about this are likely children, this is esports after all. They also don't understand decisions made by mom and dad. When they grow up, they'll know... They'll know.
ReplyDeleteLeolzzz
ReplyDeletewhatever
ReplyDeleteWell spoken, and to the point.
ReplyDeleteIf thats how it was, then i 100 % understand the decision made - of course its sad for Aui as EG for obvious reasons, still managed to be the best team in the world, in spite of their problems. But it shows much maturity as a team to still makes the decision.
-->the moment you stop improving you start declining.
BEst of luck to EG and Aui, not knowing Aui at all personally, but only through streams/interviews etc. i can definitely see how PPDs description could fit the way he composes himself.
Great blog PPD! I seriously don't understand the hate that people give you, I mean you wanted what's best for your team, what's wrong with that? Seriously people. smh.
ReplyDeletesoo ppd sucks artours balls and you suck ppd's salty cock? wp we cant have opinions
DeleteWhy do you talk like you're still inside a dota game Axel are you having trouble distinguishing between real life? Take a break from the LAN cafe.
DeleteFUCK YOU AXEL. Everything you comment here is toxic AF. So this is really how pinoys act huh? FUCKING PEENOISE STFU
DeleteI don't get it man. I just don't get it. Everyone here is talking about "your" team. Also in the blog post, it is pretty much written in first person perspective, like the decisions are made by PPD himself. Is it just me or is PPD the big boss in his personal team what happens to be EG?
DeleteBas Haar he is the captain of the team he wants the team to be better. If its true that Aui was stressful if i was on ppd's side ill will also ask the management to draft another guy to change aui. Stressful game + Stressful teammate makes the worst of everything.
DeleteThe worst of everything? Oh they just won TI. Quote quote: no amount of winning will be worth the stress i'm going through. Guess 8 million was worth it though
Deletedon't take yoruself too seriously dude just cus people give a fuck about you today don't mean you take this for granted and speak as if everyone should oh so adore you
ReplyDeletedidn't you say this was eg matter? now you can't help but tell the public why? With you knowing it's biased? jesus. don't let the clown in arteezy get to you
Glad too se Fear's talent is recognized properly, i belive that Experience/Age at E-Sports Players is needed, usefull and way better than regular sports. Good Post.
ReplyDeleteNice and enlightening post, I'm liking your leadership more and more every day.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your post and your honesty - it really cleared things up for me. It's unfortunate that some of these very private thoughts have to be made public to quell the drama, but that's what happens when your beloved game turns into an 18 million dollar prize pool and tens (hundreds?) of millions of fans worldwide. It must be hard to make these kinds of decisions, just wanted to say I respect that.
ReplyDeleteCongrats again on winning TI5, I had a lot of fun watching you guys play live, and good luck in the majors!
You did the right thing Peter and Im happy that you know that.
ReplyDeleteKeep going strong and be the first team to not turn to shit after winning a TI!
nice explanation thanks ppd
ReplyDeleteThis is just funny as hell to read!!! (Replies)
ReplyDeletePeople act as if Sports teams changing rosters is a new thing?!?!!? And I guess it's some cool troll shit to poke at the winners for wanting to continue to win and do so in a comfortable manner.
Name a Boss, CEO, or Manager that has flown out to "respectfully" let someone go? The thought is laughable and only seen in movies where the mega rich are flying in private jets to stick it to people and intimidate or to let a friend down easy and offer some Comfort. Also @Naht, Skype would be disapointed in your comment about using the service to fire someone. I mean if a business can settle lawsuits, make huge company changes, and million dollar decisions on Skype then I would say that it is just as useful to meet face to face using that technology to fire someone.
@Naht (Not trying to light you but, no I am I guess) what you just said about leadership shows that you know nothing about the role whatsoever. Or maybe you just don't understand what was said by ppd. Aui had been with EG for a good while and even played in TI with them. That shows great leadership for so many reason and I'll try not to bring every single on up.
1. He kept him on instead of imidiatly replacing him from the start.
2. Ppd admits that he could have tried harder to help Aui's communication and even goes as far to say that it is partly his fault.
Aui knows that he does not talk much. Shortly after on his stream he talked about how he is just a quit person. Well that's cool and all but with this is basically his job. Those you can not communicate and who are in a possision to be call a professional of any kind should be able to communicate.
3. Ppd knows that he can have trouble enforcing decisions, as every person in leadership positions, at some point, and handles the stress of the those decisions very well.
@Naht are you stupid? They won TI... how can you say that he has any problem handling the stress? The way of determining whether or not stress has had a crippling effect is, and always should be, based,on the outcome. Focus is the grearest factor here and when having to magae 4 + 1 instead of a solid five it is unnecessary. @ppd I think you have done great and I am glad that you have a wingman like @Fear to keep you in line. Behind all great leaders are great friends
Friends.
This leads me to my last rant.
As an employer, I am friends with every single one if my employees but as their employer I know when to act as such. Those I employ know when I am their boss and when I am their friend and I have gained much more respect from it being so. Not to mention our work flow is so much more productive.
All in all, I own a salt mine.
To reply on your first point: it was in his very own interest to keep him on since a. there were no better replacements between february and TI and b. if he had kicked them slightly before TI it would damage their invite. And as far as I know, very manager with a slight feeling of respect and empathy should fire someone in a conversation, preferably face to face. Thing is that this is esports and they don't see each other face to face, skype would be suitable. And I can very well imagine that after you just heard you are kicked from the team whom you just won TI with, you don't want to see the m*therf*cker that kicked you. And come on, saying now that it's partly his fault feels like such a fake argument, like: yeah, it's my fault too, but it's easier to kick you instead of fixing the problem.
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ReplyDeleteYou are the hero that dota deserves, but not the it needs right now
ReplyDeleteI don't think it was right or wrong to kick Aui. But when you're going to be an asshole to him, you deserved to be flamed and defamed. You might have fine management skills, but your empathy skills sucks and you know it. Even knowing that, you lack the capacity to improve it.
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" Either way something had to change because no amount of winning was worth the stress I was going through."
ReplyDeleteWhy the hell you have not kicked him before TI then ? Was too risky to blow the chances of winning that amount of money, mate. That is your answer. Now cut your bullshit and stop playing the bad greater good guy.
Exactly what I thought. Basically he used Aui and now he want's to save his team's image.
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DeleteI couldn't have agreed more.... Well said @Ender
DeleteDELETE YOUR DOTA 2 AXEL MALABANAN FUCKING TRASH TOXIC CANCER PEENOISE FUCK YOU ./.
ReplyDeleteJust because he commented something like that doesn't mean he's a peenoise. Please don't be racist to Filipinos who never did anything bad to you. Thank you.
DeleteHAHAHAHA! He is just telling the truth! If you and your cancer race cant take it because your are all butthurt then change your ways. That way of commenting/talking like he is on a goddamn SEA server spreading cancer and shitting on every game of Dota to other SEA players is not acceptable by any means. Don't try to use the racist card because 95% of your people WHO are ignorant and uneducated players are all like him spreading cancer to SEA server. Tell me if this is not true because every time I queue on SEA its like this and I wish your people be banned or get to be locked on a server with only your fellow cancer players to spread shit on. If you are really concerned of the say measly 5% of your country's players then probably you should start teaching to your shit of a countryman some manners before you go waving that racist card. He is destroying and giving a bad name to the rare good mannered ones left on your people. No wonder your country is one hell of a shit hole with every goddamn people from the lowest of citizens to the leaders are shit. People like these needs to be taught manners, if you really care, start fixing yourselves.
DeleteHonestly guys, PPD has a really valid point, with the talks too much but says too little, hearing irrelevant things when you are trying to focus and hear important information, is extremely annoying, and especially stressful IN A 18 MILLION DOLLAR TOURNAMENT. I would never want to go through that much stress ever.
ReplyDeleteHopefully Uni and Aui are still friends...
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ReplyDeleteCompletely agree with PPD you cant have a kind of player who is being stressfull common the team is allready in kind of slump where u need to be there and make good suggestions and learn from mistake , AUI does talk a lot but i knew from the beginning that AUI is not a perfect Fit for the team but its not that AUI is bad or anything he is REALLY GOOD but its just EG doesnt work that way
ReplyDeletei bet AUI got that attitude from EE. AUI's good tho. maybe if ppd did his strats out in the open with his team they would have doubt before the game not on stage. Or if they had more time to be friends before any major tourney they would have not have developed their system of AUI doubting ppd. that might have happened the first time and for AUI he might have thought that it worked since they won DAC and since it did work no one really stood up and tried to correct that team dynamic and it became a bad habit. i think no one can doubt that ppd does think of his team first before anything else, but it's hard not to think that there was something that could have been done to make it work somehow. it's hard to watch hard work and commitment get punished (AUI) while you see ego and selfishness gets rewarded with another chance (RTZ).
ReplyDelete"Either way something had to change because no amount of winning was worth the stress I was going through."
ReplyDeleteWow. So, become the freaking champion of the world isn't enough? PPD, you are a goddamn prick. I lost all respect I had left for you and EG. Sore losers, bad winners.
couldn't agree more just took the wards out of my mouth!
DeleteWhy do people fail to understand, that Aui brought it on himself? I mean, if you get terminated for whatever reason, from anywhere or anything, you don't start crying about it publicly. He got swapped for RTZ, ergo RTZ must be better in some way right? Either as a player or as a person.
ReplyDelete1. From a personal point of view. If your girlfriend left you for another man it does not make her a bitch, it just makes you a shitty boyfriend. same goes here.
2. From a proffessional point of view. If you got fired, it does not make your employer a douche, it just makes you a bad employee.
There is gonna be another shitstorm about PPD talking shit about Aui. Things like that don't happen for no reason. When Arteezy left EG nothing happened. I believe the statement was "Internal issues". that's it. either side kept to themselves. Aui could've sqashed the whole thing before it began, just saying "It didn't work out" or something. Instead he start tweeting how he got mistreated and idly watches all the backlash at his former teammates. I mean what kind of a pro does that? That's just mamsel in distress behavior. "Oh poor litte me, backstabbed by them anime hating douchebags". And now PPD is forced to preserve his team's face, go and publicly embarass the nicest guy ever. We never needed this information. PPD never wanted to post shit about Aui, and Aui never wanted his professional flaws to be exposed to general public. This whole ridiculous absurd situation is 100% Aui's fault. Pure and simple. i mean maybe PPD could've tried harder to make it work with Curtis, but it's not his responsibility. if you're bad at something in a professional environment, it's YOUR job to get better.
P.S. If you people really think that Aui carried EG through TI, you're gravely mistaken. Ti was won by luck (secret's poor performance), PPD and Fear's and Bulba's drafts, and Universe's performance. notail or any other top support could've been in Aui's place. And again, you don't set people, who won you a fucking million dollars, up like that.
yeah you forget something in your comparisons. Becasue the guy freakin won TI 1.5 weeks before he gets fired or left. Arteezy didn't get kicked, Arteezy left the team.
DeleteIf your girlfriend left you for another man it does not make her a bitch, it just makes you a shitty boyfriend.
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You're a piece of shit PPD, won't be supporting you or any team you're on ever again. Hope you die in a fire fuckface.
ReplyDelete"Either way something had to change because no amount of winning was worth the stress I was going through." Not even $6,634,660.68?
ReplyDeleteYou forget the money they won at DAC, so I guess like 8.000.000?
DeleteFuck you retarded. PPD = Pervert PAranoid Dickhead. HAHAHA
ReplyDeleteWow, how can you actually do that to Aui? Calling him the most cancerous player you have ever played with. This is unbelievable. You just don't do that to a former teammate ESPECIALLY if you won the World Championships! You feel like you are explaining yourself and that that's fair to Aui, but this is the worst thing you can do. Watch professionell sports, like real sports, you will never find one professionell talking about a (former) teammate or club like that. Why? Because it's very immature and unprofessional. And that's what you are, Peter. Shame on you. You acutally don't deserve one penny or one bit of fame.
ReplyDeletePPD it's good that you came out and listed your reasons, rather than let the community speculate further and generate misguided hate. The whole thing is just a media nightmare, fuelled by interpretation that is then reported as fact. However, it may have been better to have had a statement earlier just to avoid such backlash. The community can be malignantly cancerous given the right stimulation, and direct reporting of events/motivations regarding your team can help stop that growth.
ReplyDeleteI, and a lot of others, are curious how Suma1L and RTZ are going to work together. I assume you'll have RTZ Pos 1 and Suma1L Pos 2 mid. That being said, the curiosity about how this dynamic will work is well-founded given the egos of the two players. Hopefully it works out :)
Anyways, good luck in your future competitions. Don't let the community get you too riled up. Congrats on TI, and may your fortune continue.
PPD just wants to manage the team via convenient dictatorship style and no one should question him. This type of leadership usually ends in epic disaster. Yeah... i just lost all respect for EG.... This is what happens when you earn your $$ playing computer games and not out working in the real world, you probably get rich but you think like a kid and your EQ is that of a 12 year old. #truestory
ReplyDeletePretty much how I feel about EG right now. PPD ruling like he's the boss, The face of EG, the supreme leader while the others should follow him. Just look at how he talks about NA teams lacking leadership except EG because they have him. Maybe other NA teams lack a f*cking pos.1 player with like 10 years of top level experience, a sickly skilled offlaner or an extremely talented mid player.
DeleteWell, he seems to think winning TI is his own effort and display of his "flawless" strategy making....
DeleteAnyway he only has this time to flaunt it because they won TI.....but soon enough someone better will always come along and make him look like an idiot. #truestory
If PPD can't handle feed backs, being questioned or criticism as a leader, then he should just step down. He's definitely a good player but clearly do not display leadership qualities.
ReplyDeleteThis is also what happens when people score their first real win... They become complacent and make stupid decisions. Everything just snowballs downhill after....... #truestory
PPD mate screw all this shit and give us a blog post about how happy you are and analysing each day of ti5 like you did for ti4
ReplyDeleteI applaud you sticking with your decision. Many people will not know what it's like to be a leader; being responsible for more than just yourself is extremely difficult because you have to think like and understand the people you are in charge of. I appreciate your showing a back bone and dedication to the team. Keep up the good work and we will enjoy watching EG continue to do well.
ReplyDeleteAmen!
DeleteRoster changes are part of any game/sport. No one should be questioning your ability to lead or that you have EG's best interests at heart. You're a great captain and a great player, and don't let anyone ever tell you differently.
ReplyDeleteI love watching EG play, and will continue to do so. Your drafts, strategies, and team fights are the most entertaining I've seen in DotA. You and your team have the rare ability to see a potential wipe situation and turn it back on your opponents. That takes communication more than pure skill, IMHO.
Anyway, congratulations on your TI win, and wishing you the best of luck in your and EG's future. :)
-ERPprincess
Expressing your opinion publicly is a bit tricky. You have to say things straight as well as positively. In my opinion if you've said "I'm toxic player myself and there isn't any room for another toxic player in a team" perhaps community would've taken things bit more positively.
ReplyDeleteYes. PPD is an arrogant prick and the way he said things in this blog is kinda self centered. You can buy your friends. But not their loyalty. When you get to your low they will ignore you and pretend you didn't exist. Did you even consider that AUI_2000 talking and stressing the team pushed the team to do good in the International. That's why you should never trust a guy like PPD. I cheered for EG from beginning to end of the event.
ReplyDeleteyeah, but didn't you ever stop to read the sentence " no amount of winning was worth the stress I was going through"
DeleteI'm w PPD, if someone doesn't fit into the team & causes stress they should be booted out before it gets cancerous.
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ReplyDeleteLeaders listen and speak rather than command.
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Leaders are always ready for advising, discussion and any feedback an employee has to offer. This reciprocity makes any individual employee feel stronger and gives him or her confidence to follow the leader.
Leaders motivate rather than terrify.
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One of the best things about leaders is that they offer empathy and prepare a group for the tasks at hand. This is very important, seeing as whenever colleagues are not prepared for certain duties, leaders are there to support, teach and back them up. Leaders know that each employee is on the team for a reason and they have faith in every concerted effort.
Leaders teach and learn rather than expect and ignore.
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Wow this was an interesting perspective. It's good to know that you're gonna let people know the real side of what's going on. I don't know where this aui did everything for EG came from. I mean can we consider how great FEAR, Suma1L, PPD, and Universe are? It's not just aui that won you guys TI. It's the whole damn group because this is a fucking TEAM GAME.
ReplyDeleteWow this was an interesting perspective. It's good to know that you're gonna let people know the real side of what's going on. I don't know where this aui did everything for EG came from. I mean can we consider how great FEAR, Suma1L, PPD, and Universe are? It's not just aui that won you guys TI. It's the whole damn group because this is a fucking TEAM GAME.
ReplyDeleteI highly doubt you'll read this, but I absolutely agree with you, PPD. Staying objective in these matters is difficult, and I praise you for having the mind to spot these things, prevent future problems and do what is best for the team. I understand that it is hard sometimes to speak negatively to/about the people that you kicked out, so I appreciate the time you put in to clear the air on the issue. As for the haters calling you a prick.. You might be a prick, but what you are doing is what you should be doing. And some people may call you arrogant, but imo this is just you being confident in your way of thinking and decision making. Basically I praise you for having the balls to do the unpleasant, while taking into consideration the bigger picture, the team's best interest and your own goals.
ReplyDeleteI thought fear shall be carry instead of support... fear is far better than artezzy.. you should find a new semi support than carry again...
ReplyDelete@ppdDota i do realize that u didnt talk about aui's pros and said that he is nicest guy ever but still it is pretty awful when ur ex-teammate calls u "the most cancerous player" specially after winning a TI ... just did not expect this kind of agression from u ... and also aui did not deserved this king of hatred ... u urself might even know that u would not have chance of winning DAC or TI without AUI_2000
ReplyDeleteI wrote that and then i came across this : "I know I'm an arrogant prick and I accept that"
gg guys GOODLUCK further
nicest guy ever necessarily doesn't have do have to do anything, with the stuff he brings in the "booth"
DeleteI'll be laughing my ass out when you fails miserable because you don't have proper 4th position. Good luck to Fear, Sumail and Universe but i wish you rot in hell PPD.
ReplyDeletePeople who flame "celebrities"(in general, in this case professional dota players) when they have no fucking idea what is happening should get slapped in the face, I mean when you guys gonna group, more importantly when you guys gonna get brain implant? How the F can you hate/love anybody and flame smbdy when you don't know anything about the situation. (Just general assessment)
ReplyDeleteTo this situation: Without internal info I also thought it was a bad move for EG, but then again, you can state your opinion, and say why do you think it's right opinion (based on what info etc.) without calling anybody stupid or bad, or wishing anybody bad luck. Stop with the fucking hate, don't write something you wouldn't say to him in person...
My opinion on the situation now: Obviously the right move for the EG, when they feel this person is making them miserable you obviously don't wanna play with him. RTZ great player, I hope it'll work out for them. But shit happens so, you never know what will happen and how it's gonna work out (RTZ+Suma1l).
As for AUI, I hope he can either improve on his communication "issues"(not in the bad sense), or finds a team who works well around them.
There should be clear laws/rules/policies in removing a player from a team. It shouldn't be based on the captain or team players' decisions. Team contracts should include rules regarding this. A memo should be issued several times and if there are no improvements that's the only time a player can be removed. What PPD did is unfair simply because for Aui, this is his job so he should be treated like an employee and should have clear rights instead of just a player/gamer. The decision was purely based on the wants and needs of EG without considering Aui's needs and wants. That's why it's unfair.
ReplyDeleteThere should be clear laws/rules/policies in removing a player from a team. It shouldn't be based on the captain or team players' decisions. Team contracts should include rules regarding this. A memo should be issued several times and if there are no improvements that's the only time a player can be removed. What PPD did is unfair simply because for Aui, this is his job so he should be treated like an employee and should have clear rights instead of just a player/gamer. The decision was purely based on the wants and needs of EG without considering Aui's needs and wants. That's why it's unfair.
ReplyDeleteppd actually doesn't know what he's talking. First he says "Thanks to Aui for everything blabla", then he posts this outrageous blog entry, and then, on twitter, he writes "What we do is our personal business".
ReplyDeleteSo he goes from "I say what i HAVE to say", to "I'm so pissed i'm gonna tell everyone how bad Aui actually is so ppl understand us" to "I dont owe anyone an apology". It just shows his huge lack of leadership and also very bad social/people skills.
The worst thing is that he doesn't consider how awful this is for Aui. Getting kicked is one thing, but that his former captain says what a "cancerous player" (WTF man?) he is, is so freaking humiliating. Why do you do that? Aui is gonna look for a new, 1st tier team and everyone now gets to read about how bad he is? This is insane. Like i mentioned before, no Captain/Manager/Club in professionell sports EVER rants about a former player, not even about the worst player ever. You dont want do jeopardise their future or at least you don't want to have a bad influence on that guy's life/career.
Unfortunately, the best event/moments in Aui's life now are overshadowed with this disgusting Statement and - of course - all the talk that is the consequence of this immature and unprofessional behaviour of Peter Dager.
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ReplyDeleteI really think Aui has contributed a lot to your victory at TI5. Maybe having 4 farmed heroes is just straight better and one big reason for EG's victory.
ReplyDeleteHe is not that selfish player that just takes away farm from your carries, he actually get his farm to good use. His mekansm is always on point and saves lives countless times.
If communication is the problem, you can work together on that, ppd, make him write down your game plan on paper or some shit like that.
I'm sad it's already decided that Aui is kicked.
PPD hi. I want to ask sth about being a professional dota 2 player. how can i reach you?
ReplyDeleteI think this has gone so far... Evaluating a player in front of many just to prove your point. Now AUI will be defaced because of this. I agree with Wyk, these things should be kept private as pro teams won't be reshuffling for no reasons, us fans (though we hate it) should accept it anyway. Remember how we used to hate it before when Bigdaddy left Secret and Kuroky went back supporting. I mean, AUI accepted it even it hurts him so much more than us, but let's not put more burden and hatred for him with this salt mr PPD.
ReplyDeleteRemember when Trent Dilfer won the Superbowl with the Ravens then was cut.
ReplyDeleteSo PPD wants to win TI without any stress and as he quoted that TI4 was the best for him? Well everyone knows where was EG standing in a TI which was the best according to PPD. People do actually do good when stressed rather than a comfortable environment. Best of luck winning tourneys in a relax way.
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ReplyDeleteHi man, what about suma1l and universe, what's ur commentary about their Job? Greetings from Chile!
ReplyDeleteok if this really the reasons i can accept this... GL on your next tourney EG
ReplyDeleteA lot of money is on the line. Just because you have the highest MMR on solo. Does not mean you will necessary win The International. Asian teams are a good example of this. I think MVP.Hot6 from Korea will win next year. MVP phoenix has disbanded but hot6 remains.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, PPD doesnt owe anyone any explanation but his team. So I think it would be really great if everyone can shut the fuck up and give him some space. Him writing in this blog is to express himself, not to be judged by any of you who has no idea what exactly he had to go through
ReplyDeleteEverything he wrote seems reasonable, cant wait for a player.
ReplyDeleteSo... Secret lost pretty early, possibly bring Zai back?
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ReplyDeleteThank you PPD for this very insightful post. It is nice to read some of the things that goes through the head of a pro player behind the scene. Even though I don't follow Dota so much I hope you will continue to post more of your insight of the game. Good luck with the new team.
ReplyDeleteI watched you guys over the course of TI5 and decided to put my money where my mouth is and pennant up, so to speak.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, I came in with an unbiased opinion about each member of the team. One of the things that I noticed (in-game) was how AUI floated around, but due to my own ignorance and inability to find someone capable of explaining things, I settled on the idea that it was perhaps strategy or play style. Your explanation totally makes sense and the situation was apparent (at least to me).
Through the stages of the bracket, I was able to get a sort of grasp on the level of stress encountered by all teams. Facial expressions paint the picture and the broadcast crew did well to use it to increase the drama. However, I don't think you could put a price on FEARs ability to sooth the tension. The fact that he has the ability to bring calm to such a frenetic game and then also produce wins make him the MVP.
I'm not sure about "old man," but perhaps "wise sage." He's got a major Miyagi factor going on!
One of the things I've come to appreciate from you and other pro-gamers is the lack of bullshit. My point is that compared to other sports and athletes, people who watch the game have a sense of what is actually going on and they don't like being jerked around; it's insulting. Thanks for telling it like it is and being respectful in how you handle your business; as a fan, I appreciate it.
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You are, indeed, a captain. But very much less a leader. It is the leader's role to have a deep understanding of not just the game itself, but his teammates as well. You kicked Aui for being a cancerous player. But you could have just talked it over and warned him to stop having that mentality and helped him develop his attitude towards the game.and the team. But instead, you kicked him out immediately for Arteezy. And with that, enjoy the fruits of your decision. TI5 champ getting beaten by a qualifier entry team. Wish you the best of luck PPD. Thanks.
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ReplyDeleteget a real job and stop bitching
also aui won you ti5, why make shit up and slander his name? to save your own ass? give me a break
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Vegas. i tried all i could do to secure a job but all
went in vain because i was from the black side of
America. so i decided to browse through on my
phone for jobs online where i got an advert on
Hackers advertising a Blank ATM card which can
be used to hack any ATM Machine all over the
world, i never thought this could be real because
most advert on the internet are based on fraud, so
i decided to give this a try and look where it will
lead me to if it can change my life for good. i
contacted this hackers and they told me they are
from Australia and also they have branch all over
the world in which they use in developing there
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